2016 Election Preferences

Or maybe we can look to something like the elo chess ranking system, and make the voting system a continuous process throughout the the year. Where you are asked randomly about one party vs another.

After multiple rounds your vote selection is generated

but note https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-drawbacks-of-ELO-ratings-in-chess

That is a very weird assessment you have of the Liberal Democrats.

Here was their letter to the Pirate Party from last election (2013): https://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/Preferences/Liberal_Democratic_Party

They align with the Pirate Party on many issues, such as free speech, privacy, marriage equality, drug legalisation/decriminalisation, and foreign policy. Leyonhjelm has consistently voted against things such as mandatory metadata retention, and for things such as marriage equality and drug decriminalisation.

Even the party policies on things like taxation are very similar, as the Pirate Party is probably the only other party (except the Liberal Democrats) who want to reduce tax (yes, the Liberal Democrats want to reduce it more), flatten welfare withdrawal rates, reduce corporate tax, and abolish the worst taxes.

One thing that has changed since the 2013 letter is that the Liberal Democrats do now have a policy on Copyright and Patents, and (as expected in 2013) it is very similar to the Pirate Partyā€™s stance. In fact, on this core issue, they are probably the only other party that wants to significantly reduce copyright.

Sly Gryphon

(Disclaimer: I am a candidate for the Liberal Democrats.)

Where thereā€™s a policy and a record, Iā€™ll go with the record. My assessment is based on the performance of their sole existing representative in Parliament. As I said, that can be summed up as ā€œguns good; wind farms badā€. If thatā€™s a problem for you, then you might like to take it up with David Leyonhjelm.

Libertarian left & libertarian right have always had a rocky relationship, being the most similar parties in some areas (marriage, for eg) and the most different in others (net neutrality). I was surprised the LDP lost that much ground on preferencing since last time, but to be fair they did not preference us either, seemingly preferring parties from the authoritarian right.

It could swing back again. Leyonhjelm has done some good things, but heā€™s yet to come out against crony capitalism and copyright abuse with half the forcefulness heā€™s used against windmills. Maybe with more time.

Good luck in the campaign Sly.

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TheyVoteForYou disagrees with you on Senator Leyonhjelmā€™s voting record of most important issues: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/nsw/david_leyonhjelm

No mention of guns or wind farms; yes, he does support responsible firearm owners, and yes, he did back more investigation into wind farms, but neither of them is a significant enough issue to be listed.

The issues you mention might also get a lot of press coverage though.

If you check his record on digital rights, probably the area of most interest to the Pirate Party:

Voted very strongly for:

  • More scrutiny of intelligence services & police
  • Protecting whistleblowers
  • Requiring a warrant to access citizensā€™ telecommunications records

Voted very strongly against:

  • Increasing surveillance powers
  • Storing all citizensā€™ telecommunications data for access by government agencies

And for the record, I have written to the Senator on issues such as wind farms, pointing out that while more scientific research has been recommended, what we do have points to them being safe, and so it is probably not worth prioritising.

Here is one of the speeches he gave against increasing copyright:
http://davidleyonhjelm.com.au/senator-leyonhjelms-speech-on-australias-new-online-copyright-regime/

Maybe not as newsworthy as other stuff, but he has done it.

He also fought very hard against the metadata laws, which few other parties did (pretty much only him and the Greens, and I think maybe Muir).

But @davidb is correct, he is only one representative of the party, and so it is going to slant things in the direction of his personal areas of interest (largely agriculture). When we get someone elected from a more IT background, it would slant a different way.

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Itā€™s always possible to cherry-pick for a desired impression. The totality is different.

Anthropogenic Global Warming, for example. Much as they try to weasel-word around it, The Lib-Demā€™s are denialist.

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So this just came out:

Did they send us a party policy survey? Why donā€™t they have our response yet?

Since theyā€™re aiming to print and hand out a million how to vote cards, we could piggyback off them. Their current senate HTV cards are a bit of a mess because they only preference three or four parties, and voters who follow them and forget to number 5 and 6 as well will end up spoiling their ballots. If we can convince getup that they need to put at least 6 candidates on their how to vote cards, it wonā€™t be too late to convince them to preference us. I know the page says that they prioritised parties which actually stand a chance based on past results, but I can always hope.

Does anyone have contacts with Getup to try and get this ball rolling?
My cousin works there now, but I havenā€™t seen her in a decade, so I donā€™t think I can wrangle any deals.

They didnā€™t send us anything. I assume they donā€™t ask parties without parliamentary representatives, since all of the others have reps in parliaments (although it is missing some parties with representation).

We have had good relations with people from GetUp! but they have avoided overtures we have made in the past. Iā€™d say it would be too late anyway since printing is most likely under way. It is for us.


I just did this according to the pirate party preferences for WA, if this saves you time (took me like 40 minutes to do this).
Independents are last because I figured it didnā€™t really matter.

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