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Designing Open Democracy Intro |
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Nicholas Gruen Introduction |
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- Vox Pop Democracy |
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- 2013 Australian Election |
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- Carbon Pricing |
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- 80% to 90% of Politicians was against Abolishing the carbon price |
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- What’s happening is that our society is optimised for the African Savannah |
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- We evolved to like sweet high energy food which is close to good food at the time but in modern times is now junk food |
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- The current trouble happening in democracy is because we are getting exactly what we are asking for. |
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- One of the fundamental issues of democracy is to navigate the cognitive division of labour. |
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- In the world of politics there is no rational reason for us to vote at all personally |
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- Politics is essentially ran by emotive force |
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- Cultural Politics |
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- Nicolas Gruen shows a UK poster to illustrate bad media coverage |
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- Media example of Australia Media coverage of Indonesia execution of Australian drug smugglers in comparison to how the media covers Indonesian drug smuggler caught in Australia. |
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- Cognitive Elites |
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- This can be done via election or via lot (random selection) |
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- Election is a recent idea around the French revolution |
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- Election is a competitive process and aristocratic |
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- While democratic how representative is the elected politicians to their population |
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- Here we have a unitary system where people main problem is try to get to an agreement |
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- In a jury your job isn’t to beat anyone its to come to a conclusion |
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- Juries is democratic in the sense of equality of speech not freedom of speech |
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- Pauline Hanson is an authentic voice |
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- Adelaide Citizen Juries example |
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- 18th and 19th century about setting up checks and balances between lower house representing the people and upper house representing property rights |
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- Now in modern times we should do checks and balances between the people represented by elected representatives and the people represented as themselves in a jury |
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- The magic trick/myth is that the reason for current troubles is because the politicians are the letting us down or are the bad guys. |
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Huburtus Hofkirchner |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Introduction |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner background as an investment banker |
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- The idea of Prediki started around the time of the internet bubble |
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- Austrian Economics thought that with proper processes a collective intelligence can form |
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- Iron law of oligarchy. Michels’ theory states that all complex organizations regardless of how democratic they are when started eventually develop into oligarchies. |
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- mechanic of prediki |
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- Prediki people have to first bet on outcome of a decision which switch’s a different mode of thinking |
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- Prediki also prompts users to specify reason for their decision |
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- Sentiment Analysis |
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- Prediki then dissects the arguments into graphs of sentiments to an issue as well as breakdown on reasons for such sentiment |
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- “Brexit Example: Most google search after the vote is ““what is the EU?””” |
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- Similarities and difference towards Nicholas Gruen’s proposal |
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- What is the biggest motivator for people to participate in democracy? |
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- Many public concerns are ignored because politicians think the public is too stupid to decide anything |
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- Attempts to proposed this system to traditional political parties was unsuccessful |
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- Showed a slide about Prediki system map |
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- Using algorithms to determine the breakdown of opinions |
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- Breaking down misconception of stupidity of the masses |
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- Finding domain knowledgeable people via algorithms |
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- Allowing for specialisation |
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- Citizen juries allows for increased political bandwidth |
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- End of presentation warning |
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- How did Huburtus Hofkirchner’s party go in the election? |
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- What he learnt to improve chances for the next election |
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- Face it no one is interested in democracy. Everyone assumes it works |
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QA Starts Here |
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Question: How do you introduce this idea to the general public? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner response |
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Questions: What sort of result do you need in the next election before you can demonstrate to the public that this system can work? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Response |
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Question: Is there an algorithm to help select a citizen juries to make it as representative as possible? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Response |
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- Geelong citizen juries example |
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Question: Have you heard of any kind of meritocratic appointment system? |
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- Nicolas Gruen - Athenian used elections for army commanders |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Adds |
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Question: How would your system avoid corruption and manipulation? |
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- Nicholas Gruen Responses |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Adds |
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Nicholas Gruen & Huburtus Hofkirchner brief debate |
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- Nicholas Gruen starts |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner |
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- Nicholas Gruen |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner - on prediction market |
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- Nicholas Gruen |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner |
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- Nicholas Gruen |
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Question: Citizens can deal with issues but are they dealing with the right issues? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Respond |
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Question: How will citizen juries work within existing systems? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Responsed |
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Question: How do you hold your citizen juries party representative accountable? |
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- Huburtus Hofkirchner Respond |
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- Nicholas Gruen Adds |
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Question: Are you suggesting to have citizen juries replace the senate? |
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- Nicholas Gruen Responds |
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- Slow Democracy |
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- Host noted a question from a previous event. What are the main factors for the acceptance of citizen juries? Did the press humanise the citizen juries members? |
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- People in general think elections are kind of like auctions |
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Nicholas Gruen’s difference to Ian Walker’s New Democracy approach |
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Event conclusion speech |